Where do you get the ideas for
your books?
I got the idea for my first
book, “ Everything I’ve
Ever Done that Worked”
inside my own wardrobe. I was
worried about something and
couldn’t sleep and I knew
I’d once learned some
technique that helped and that
it was somewhere in a pile of
old notes and journals in the
wardrobe. As I was looking for
it I thought, wouldn’t
it be a good idea to gather
all the stuff that works into
one folder so I could find it
in the middle of the night.
And I did and now it’s
a book and anyone can keep it
by the bedside – I know
many people who do.
The lovely thing about writing
these books that are a mix of
reflection, philosophising,
practical advice and memoir
is that everything counts. A
trip to a refugee camp, an interview
with a famous man, a sunset
in Greece or an English field
in the rain – everything
triggers ideas and connections
with me and if this produces
an idea that I can explore in
a thousand words then it is
grist to my mill. I say about
ideas what the American composer
John Cage said about music.
He said it was what he heard
when he put himself in the frame
of mind to be a music listener.
I say ideas come when you pay
attention and are receptive.
If you practice focus and openness
at the same time you will be
rewarded.
I want to be a journalist.
How do I start?
It’s never too soon to
start. When you’re at
the stage of being interviewed
for jobs, your interviewer will
want to know what commitment
you’ve shown to journalism
– the school magazine
counts, so does student journalism.
I was fashion editor of my student
paper and that was enough to
show a bit of enthusiasm and
promise. The fact that you invented
your own newspaper or set up
your own website shows enterprise.
Talent for writing is important,
curiosity about everything helps,
but enterprise is crucial. Good
journalists are the people who
ask the extra question, fix
up the difficult interview and
generally refuse to take no
for an answer.
Personally, I’d take
a first degree in whatever interests
you most rather than do media
studies or journalism. History,
politics, science, literature,
languages – all of these
will stretch your mind and give
you depth. Contacts are hugely
useful, even if it’s your
uncle’s business partner’s
dentist’s wife. Contacts
get you meetings get you work
experience get you work –
in time. Persistence, lateral
thinking and as a famous journalist,
Nicholas Tomalin once said,
“ a plausible manner,
a little literary ability and
rat-like cunning” will
do the rest. Enjoy it. It’s
a fascinating life.
I want to write. What
do you recommend?
If you want to write, well
- write. It’s the most
wonderfully low-tech activity.
Paper and a pencil will do it.
If you want to know what to
write, then read. Read everything
– poetry, plays, politics,
novels, the back of cereal packets.
If you want the inspiration
of other people, and it does
help, join a local writing group
or go on a residential course.
If you want inspiration at home,
read Julia Cameron’s The
Artist’s Way and start
churning out those morning pages.
Or read Dorothea Brande’s
classic “Becoming a Writer.”
Above all, persist. And finish
things. I once told my friend
Allan Mallinson that nobody
could call themselves a novelist
until they’d actually
finished writing a novel. He’s
about to publish his tenth.
Who is the most interesting
person you have ever interviewed?
This always stumps me when
I am asked it at parties because
I’m not ready for it,
but here goes. Leonard Bernstein,
the American composer and conductor.
You can read about my encounters
with him in my books. Dr. Seuss
– yes, he signed a copy
of “Green Eggs and Ham”
for me. David Hockney, the artist.
He talked to me about drawing
and inspired me to start back
at art school. Jake and Dinos
Chapman, the artist brothers
who famously eat journalists
for breakfast. Jake started
by threatening to throw me out
and then gave me a book of their
etchings as an apology. The
beautiful and direct Audrey
Hepburn. The stylish and wary
Lauren Bacall. Sometimes it’s
the circumstances of the interview
that are memorable as well as
the people.
I had a private tour of the
Elysee Palace with Mme Mitterrand.
I accompanied the Everly Brothers
on a gig in Southend. I’ve
drunk champagne with the comedian
Eddie Izzard at two in the morning
in Montmartre. I’ve gone
shopping for chickens with Luciano
Pavarotti in Pesaro. I’ve
interviewed the President of
Zanzibar and thirty members
of his Revolutionary Council,
simultaneously. As a rule of
thumb, many politicians and
actors are disappointing –
they are too practised at putting
on a performance. Artists and
musicians, the clever ones,
are fascinating. And un-famous
people, who have a human story
to tell, are the most interesting
of all.
What qualifies you
to do what you do?
A journalist is only as good
as the last piece they’ve
written so a career is like
an endless job interview. As
long as people like what you
do you will get asked to do
it again. If you mean what qualifies
me to answer peoples’
problems I refer you to my introductory
Lifeclass piece under Journalism.
Firstly what qualifies me is
life experience. I’ve
had relationships, been married,
had children, looked after sick
parents, been a member of a
wider family of relatives and
friends who all have problems
of their own.
None of this would count at
all if I hadn’t done the
extra work of thinking about
all this, sometimes in the company
of other people, therapists,
workshop facilitators, fellow
human beings, who take the time
out to make sense of and find
meaning in the way they live
their lives. In courses and
workshops you meet other people
who are trying to make sense
of their lives and you benefit
collectively from each other’s
experience.
I have also travelled widely
on different continents and
in different cultures and that
has taught me that, while the
basic passages of human experience
– birth, love, loss, work,
death – are the same,
there are different ways of
coping with them. I try not
to be parochial. And finally,
the act of writing these things
down and trying to make sense
of them adds an extra layer
of thought to the process. As
I said, you are only as good
as your last piece so if, despite
all this, what I write doesn’t
make sense to people, then I
would lose my readers. My readers,
by the way, are also my teachers.
We’re all in this together.
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